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Just looked at their website. 450-500,000 plus tax for their framesets . Never knew they were so expensiveI would love to get one of those Yonex frame sets and take endless photos playing squash or badminton with it.
Just looked at their website. 450-500,000 plus tax for their framesets . Never knew they were so expensive
So they give you a whole sports package for that price? Very nice of themIt seems expensive at first glance, but when you consider the price of any other lightweight carbon frame set + tennis racket + golf club set, it actually works out cheaper overall.
I want to fixie next. I have only owned 4 racing bikes. A Dawes Reynolds 531C that I started racing on when I was 10. A Peugeot that I got when I was about 14 or so using Columbus SL. My sister sold that and all my CDs (and kept the money) when I disappeared off to Japan. Ouch! Bought an entry level carbon bike in 2013 from GS Astuto and am still riding it. Bought a lovely Peugeot RSR 02 second hand for use in Ireland every time I go back. That's also carbon. I have never really lusted bikes themselves but rather riding them. One brand that stands out to me from when I was a kid (mostly for the way they looked and the signature) and seeing them hanging in the bike shop is a Colnago. Guess I should just sell 2 of my 3 cars and get one.
I actually have an ex-Keirin racer's track bike (complete) I'm looking to sell. Drop me a message on Line if it's of interest.
This is an interesting thread, especially for me as a Field owner (that is my dream bike and I cherish it greatly).
I think your dream bike depends on its use first, style second. I most often ride on the roads and with certain goals - Field helped me integrate those goals into my geometry and tubing choices. As alluded to by some above, a more 'gravel grinder' / flexible / 'gnarmac' / adventure / monstercross (any more?) build may suit others, too (more clearance, 650b compatibility, etc.).
Beyond that, you're then buying for aesthetics, which is hugely personal. With Field, I designed this side with the in-house designer there (Tom Smith), but with other brands you have a little less free range (certainly if you don't want to double the price of the frame in paint costs, at least).
For me, if I was getting another bike, it'd be something with big clearance and the like and/or a super lightweight road frame (perhaps custom carbon). However, my Field and Ritchey Swiss Cross more than suit my needs, now.
My friend is the Stoemper distributor here and I've been greatly impressed with the bikes I've seen go through his store. They seem a very reasonable version of custom / semi-custom and, I'm told, are a dream to ride.
I was meaning to get to this somehow missed it
First, so those fancy Field paint jobs on instagram are *extea charge*? Like how much extra? Sorry, too lazy to go look for myself about prices (don't know prices except the really main ones / easily visible ones!) unless I'm really about to buy.. so only out of curiosity, that question.
About custom... is it really that important? (Related to @saibot 's throwaway comment earlier). Like if your tastes are going to change, (ride / handling characteristics *customized* into the frame) or your riding strength/ability, which affects position, or body's going to change eg. weight (fit customized into the frame) seems to be kind of stupid.
You can change more about the fit, even ride? by stem / seatpost / seatpost height than most customizations built into a frame? Between different bikes I've ridden (varying materials and geometries, like really different!) I could barley tell the diff after a few hours on the machine, sometimes just a few minutes. Even between vastly different groupsets!
Well, it's all about a personal relationship between rider and bike and even if it's only a psychological one who am I to judge. Well guess you can tell I'm not sold on the idea of *custom but I can appreciate the exotic part of it.
But anyways on to the last thing - the STOEMPER guy's a friend of yours you say? LMAO
This is a "problem" that I am wrestling with now.
The issue is, how long will your dream bike be your dream? Are you likely to covet something else in a couple of months? If so by the time your uber custom frame is done, you will want something else.
Or if you want the latest stuff, it will soon be superseded with the next latest greatest stuff.
Indeed its a first world problem....
I am steering towards a larger clearance all road bike at the moment. Good enough with the right tyres to do road events, tough enough with enough clearance for gravel events, and quirky/unique enough for me to feel that it is "my bike" rather than an off the shelf model. I had a 2008 steel Kona Unit that was most of those things for me years ago, perhaps without the road bike chops. I had it set up for single speed or 1x9 with 700c 32mm gatorskins for the road and some much larger offload tyres as well. I think something in that style but with a ti frame or good steel and a carbon for would do the trick
I kind of agree with @130R
There's no dream bike for me. There are just too many stunning bikes, that I wouldn't even be able to say which I like best.
I just enjoy looking at awesome bikes of others and then happily jump on my 2011 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX F10 which I bought second hand for about 100.000 Yen two years ago.
I really really like my bike. Not because it's the bike it is, but because it allows me to do the rides I want to do (and I can do here where I live). And if my bike had been a different bike of about the same level, I'd probably like it the same way.
Basically what I'm enjoying most are lucky finds that fit my budget and riding. I then usually ride the bikes as long as they last (mostly without any major upgrading) or until they don't fit my riding anymore.
And since I've already reached a certain age and don't expect to become a much stronger rider than I'm now (which doesn't mean that I'm strong at all - more like a total average weekend worrier - hahaha), there'll be no reason for me to upgrade for the time being. The only upgrade (or actually more of a swop) I did, was getting a different saddle, since I'm riding longer distances more often now.
Anyway, I really hope you all keep getting dream bikes and show them off here and on the roads, though. It's always great fun seen nice bikes.
The bike I'm seeing myself riding someday in the future will be mostly likely a steel or ti "do-it-all" bike, ready for proper fenders and rack. This is for the time when speedy rides on mostly well paved roads step back behind more adventurous and relaxed leisure rides.
There's a lot to address in here. Here goes:
1. The paint job isn't any 'extra' from what I'm aware (my point was that other builders charge a lot extra for that type of paint). The price of the frame and fork is broadly similar, unless you were to go for mentally complex paint. Also, they don't quote their prices online as it does depend a little on exactly what you want (some metal is more expensive than others, forks differ in price, etc.).
2. How important custom is depends so much on the person. If you don't dig it, don't buy it is what I'd always say. Some of your comments/views are pretty throwaway, but you're welcome to them.
3. My mate is the distributor in Japan (Tokyo at least) for Stoemper, that's all (not Stoemper themselves, who are US based). It just means I've seen a lot of their bikes - lovely looking machines and Stoemper themselves are a great company.
About custom... is it really that important? (Related to @saibot 's throwaway comment earlier). Like if your tastes are going to change, (ride / handling characteristics *customized* into the frame) or your riding strength/ability, which affects position, or body's going to change eg. weight (fit customized into the frame) seems to be kind of stupid.
....
But anyways on to the last thing - the STOEMPER guy's a friend of yours you say? LMAO
Mild alarm bells are ringing here.
You're on a tear on TCC lately, which has been interesting and has stirred things up in a good way, but one of the reasons this forum is relatively quiet is because we've had trouble before with "strong personalities" coming in and scaring others off with off-putting comments. For example, you've likened this place to a "sausage fest" then in the same breath wonder where the women are. Maybe it's time to rein it in a bit.
Here, for example, you're basically calling someone who has put a lot of time and money in choosing a bike "stupid." Surely there are more diplomatic (or less drunk, perhaps?) ways of expressing yourself.
And finally, you seem to be implying that @Dom is lying about his Stoemper connection. Actually, I can't tell what you are trying to say there. But that's kind of the point -- maybe a little more care in crafting your comments would improve the conversations you crave.
Thanks for the info. Sorry but what do you mean by "some of my comments/views are pretty throwaway"? Like as in garbage, or careless, or left intentionally with iat least some careful consideration but not as the main point (the way I use the phrase btw)
This, but now without the HED trispoke up front (matching front to the rear in the photo).