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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by theBlob, Mar 2, 2014.

  1. leicaman

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    Any reason you aren't looking at a carbon bike?

    If you want an Alu frame, then this would be worth looking at

    https://www.canyon.com/en-jp/road/endurace/2016/endurace-al-7-0.html

    It's not disc though.

    If you wanted disc and didn't mind getting a carbon frame, you will probably never see a better deal than this though. The owner is a bit demented so you'd better get it quick before he comes to his senses and adds a couple of hundred thousand to the asking price ;)

    http://www.tokyocycle.com/bbs/threa...apse-hi-mod-disc-da-di2-or-mech-ultegra.7005/
     
  2. leicaman

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    If your budget is 150-200K , why have you been looking at the inflite AL9 at 221,000 (plus 20,000 delivery plus around 10,000 import tax)?
    The carbon bike I posted would work out cheaper quite a bit cheaper than the AL9 with the "budget" setup ;)
    But by all means, go for a steel frame. You wouldn't get me on a steel frame though ;).
     
  3. D'Pioneer

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    @Karl 9 years is acceptable for an aluminium frame. Nothing lasts forever*

    If I was you, I would get a carbon frame. They are seriously strong nowadays.
     
  4. Karl

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    I guess I'm retro. I've always loved the ride on a steel bike.

    You're probably right about the price. The Inflite AL9 was at the upper end of the range (er... 20k above) and I really didn't factor in shipping + taxes.

    Last time I thought about a carbon frame was many years ago. At the time they were very expensive and seemed easy to break. Guess I still have that impression... even if those days are probably long past. One other factor is the touring possibilities. I'd be afraid of using such a beautiful bike as a touring bike and that's an option I want to keep open.
     
  5. Karl

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    Not enough in the budget for 2 bikes and I wouldn't try to have a carbon bike become a dual-use bike when one of the uses would be touring. For now, I'll use my 1989 Panasonic steel frame 10 speed for Saturdays and use my 1995 Panasonic 'tank' for local commuting.

    But, out of curiosity, what is the ride like on a carbon bike? I heard they are pretty stiff. If true, that's good for power but not so good for comfort.
     
  6. D'Pioneer

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    This is largely due to the design of the structure, and use of the material, rather than anything inherent with the material itself. With a high end carbon frame, the stiffness is designed in, rather than being something that exists because it is made of carbon. The nature of the material allows for extremely detailed design, in all parts of the frame, at a very high resolution. Also, there are many (many) different variations of 'carbon' which are used in frame manufacture. The resin plays as much a part as the carbon fibre itself.

    That gives you no answer, I realise, so as a very very general bit of opinion, based on the carbon frames I have ridden, they ride like this...

    Kind of a hollow, muted plasticky feel, but without the flex you would associate with a 'plastic'. Oddly futuristic, almost numb feeling compared to aluminium, and a lot lighter and hilariously nimble compared to steel. The fitter you get and the more you put through them, the more you appreciate how rad they are. Well designed, well made carbon frames just don't ever give way, regardless of the force being delivered. If you play golf, baseball or do archery, it is the same as metal vs carbon in those sports. When I got on my first carbon frame, it was almost an anti-climax; I suppose I was expecting it to feel completely different to aluminium. It was only after I put in some distance, and re-rode my old aluminium frame that I realised how much better it was.
     
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  7. Karl

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    Thinking of trying route 76 tomorrow. Looking at the map, it kinda disappears then reappears later. Can you do 76 without benefit of a mountain bike?
     
  8. Half-Fast Mike

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    If you mean Kanagawa Prefectural route 76 (and I think you do) then I know people who have done it on road tyres but their nerves were shattered. There are several kilometres of fire track on the northeast side leading up to the 2-km unlit tunnel. Great fun with gravel-capable tyres. Watch out for bears!
     
  9. Karl

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    Yes. That was the route I was asking about. Good info. Arigato!
     
  10. Chrisisism

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    I wonder if anyone has sent their bikebags with Takkyubin service?

    Especially if the package exceeds total dimensions of 160cm. I wonder if they in general has exception for that as for golf bags:

    "
    • Parcels larger than size 160 are not accepted. However, golf bags, skis, and snowboards which exceed 160 cm may be accepted if they weigh 25 kg or less.
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    Regards, Christopher
     
  11. bawbag

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    Wouldn't risk a bike bag in the post. In my experience, Japan Post and Yamato handle their packages very carefully, but still. Any reason you can't grab a box and post it that way? Yamato have a service that is dirt cheap if you're willing to post a box as "bike parts." http://www.kuronekoyamato.co.jp/yamatobin/yamatobin.html
    I sent a guitar speaker cab with a massive 15" JLB speaker in it and it cost next to nothing to post to Fukuoka from Tokyo. They don't accept music equipment or amplifiers and the ilk, so I just packed it well, double-boxed it and wrote it up as a "キャビネット"

    Edit: JBL speaker. Tut tut.
     
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  12. Half-Fast Mike

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    Seino-unyu (a competitor to Kuroneko) have an excellent service for bikes...

    http://www.seino.co.jp/seino/service/domestic/cycling/

    They promote it for cycling events, but you can use it anytime anywhere.
     
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  13. jdd

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    I once takkyubin'd a loaded touring bike from Ajigasawa (north of Mt. Iwaki) to Kanazawa. Fully assembled and with two medium-ish panniers on the back. They rolled it away, and it came off the truck the same way at my house two days later. No damage or missing thingies at all.

    Expensive tho, I think it was 12-13,000 yen.
     
  14. Half-Fast Mike

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    Waterproof jacket recommendations?

    My favourite Fox Vapor rain jacket has finally disintegrated - the membrane came away from the mesh on the back. I've had it for 6 years and it's seen a lot of use. Light; packable; comfortable; inexpensive. I could get the same thing from eBay but would pay a lot for postage. Something similar would be nice, I think. But I'm interested to hear what folk have bought recently and had good (or dreadful) results with.

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    RIP Fox Vapor. Sterling service in Nagano, 2013
     
  15. theBlob

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    I have a craft one, that I have been very happy with. Folds up into its own pocket. Fits well without too much excess flapping and has a comfortable collar and fits snugly at the wrists. No complaints.
     
  16. Winston Leg-Thigh

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    I gave gravel kings a go .... First rear tyre got a nick in the sidewall after 550km. I replaced it and the same happened after 150km.
     

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